Re: This is my 1975 full cowl cummins hard ice cream van

Post by Classicicecreams » Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:06 am
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I've got a repair kit in my watch list on eBay with all what you've mentioned for £49. Better than £280 for an exchange unit :o

The battery was charged all day and I had a commercial booster pack from work on it so it's 100% the starter :(

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Post by Phil Bradshaw » Club admin » Thu Jan 08, 2015 1:41 am
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Try Forge Services.
Best to use the starter number stamped on the body for the correct bits.

Alternatively, try your local auto electrical suppliers - Cargo catalogue lists stuff for M45G starters.
Take old bits as samples.

Also check the brush springs before tearing apart the starter.
Spring tension should be 30-40 ounce measured using a spring balance through the slots in the yoke (body).
Renew all four springs if any are weak.
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Post by Classicicecreams » Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:06 pm
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I have a repair kit in my watch list on eBay for £50 is this the best option ?
I can find bush kits for £5 but no bearing kits on there own

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Post by Phil Bradshaw » Club admin » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:48 am
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Dug out some part numbers then had a mooch myself: JCR Supplies on eBay.
Not as cheap as my local suppliers but kit is a lot less than £50.

See eBay and similar items. :)
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Post by Classicicecreams » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:13 am
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Hi Phil ive just got the old starter off and stripped down it looks like it's only one of the springs that have snapped and failing to push out the brush onto the shaft !!! Would this fit my starter ??

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Post by Phil Bradshaw » Club admin » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:55 am
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Short answer: no.

M45G commutator end plate also is the end cover; Denso end plate fits inside the end cover. Nothing else matches either ...

Have a look at Forge Services M45 page here. Two types of commutator end plate shown: go off Lucas number on the yoke (body).
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Post by Classicicecreams » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:30 pm
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Cool glad I didn't buy it :) I have however found what I need here (I hope:))

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vi ... 1450912931

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Post by Classicicecreams » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:33 pm
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And an upto date picture for you all :)

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Post by Phil Bradshaw » Club admin » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:58 pm
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Classicicecreams wrote:Cool glad I didn't buy it :) I have however found what I need here (I hope:))
Replacing just two may be false economy: correct spring tension on all brushes is essential for longest service life.

Wood Auto full set for M45, M50, M127, M113 etc. better value from jcrsupplies via eBay (£4.80 inc P&P) or their website; search for EC3258.
(Wood Auto price is 96p net ... but first an account is required and then there's a sizeable minimum order value. :()
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Re: This is my 1975 full cowl cummins hard ice cream van

Post by Classicicecreams » Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:52 pm
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I thought the same so have ordered another pair and the bushes

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