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Overdrive

Post by Grimble » Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:26 pm
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Hi
i am going to try and fit this overdrive unit to my gearbox. Any ideas if this is possible for an amateur? i have never worked on a gearbox before.
i currently have the same 4 speed box fitted to my CF and i also have the propshaft to go with the overdrive.
Anyone done this before? Anything i should know?
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Post by VDUB384 » Club admin » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:07 pm
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Usually the main shaft in the gearbox is a different one when you have an overdrive unit fitted at least it has been on the gearboxes I've worked on in the past with overdrive units on
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Post by Phil Bradshaw » Club admin » Mon Sep 19, 2016 1:24 am
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What's wrong with the gearbox that's attached to the overdrive now?
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Re: Overdrive

Post by Grimble » Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:40 am
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its a good question Phil. I was told by the previous owner that the bell housing cracked in several places. sounds like the bolts holding it onto the engine were not tight. i was worried that this might have damaged the rest of the box and was hoping that it would be an easy swap to fit the O/D to my box.
looks like i am going to do what you have suggested Phil and go from there. Fit the whole lot and find out.
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Post by VDUB384 » Club admin » Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:56 am
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What's stopping you swapping bell-housing over then putting the gearbox complete with overdrive on that would make more sense
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Post by Phil Bradshaw » Club admin » Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:54 am
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If the clutch housing was an earlier type then cracks wouldn't be unusual. Later clutch housing is a straight swap but make sure that the two 1/2-inch caps and the end of the layshaft at the front of the transmission have a good coat of sealant before assembly to prevent oil leakage.

In the photo it looks like there's a hole in the top of the overdrive where the breather should be. Original fitting is like the breather on the extension housing of the non-overdrive transmission (i.e. hollow stem with loose fit cap) but larger diameter if I remember correctly.
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Re: Overdrive

Post by Grimble » Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:49 pm
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Well i got it fitted today using my bell housing and keeping the overdrive unit attached to its original gearbox. I will finish it tomorrow, fill it with fresh oil, fit a breather and go for a quick road test. Fingers crossed eh :D

One problem that i have already found is that the speedo cable for an o/d must have had another type of fitting because mine will not connect. Anyone know if they are avaliable new or where to find them?

I will post some pictures when i get a chance. It took me six hours in total today and was an easy job with no problems at all. Only bit that required some thought was the rear mount having different fixings. I removed the 1/2" studs from the mount and used bolts into the ally O/D housing. Other than that it was an absolute joy to work on. :) most pleasant gearbox change i ever did :thumb:)
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Re: Overdrive

Post by Grimble » Mon Oct 10, 2016 8:14 pm
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O that didn't go so well :(
1st 2nd and 3rd are fine, in fact very smooth and quieter than any CF box i ever used. i was actually quite pleased for a while. That is until i selected 4th and it popped straight out. dam shame as the other three gears are beautiful
Could this be a selector fault or is it something more serious? i put fresh oil in it :oops:
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Post by Phil Bradshaw » Club admin » Mon Oct 10, 2016 8:27 pm
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Jumping out of top gear usually is due to worn synchro dogs on the input shaft and 3/4 synchro sleeve or a loose or cracked 3/4 synchro hub or a combination.

Wear in the clutch spigot bearing in the back of the crankshaft, transmission front bearing, mainshaft spigot and, or, roller bearing/s can be a contributory factor.
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Re: Overdrive

Post by Grimble » Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:19 pm
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All sorted now and i must admit that the overdrive is an essential component. My CF is now much more usable on motorways and long journeys. win 8-)

turned out that the synchro hub for 3rd and 4th was borked but i bought a new one from ebay for £30 and had it fitted by a friend.
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